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RE: ChatGPT - mnrvovrfc - 02-23-2023
(02-23-2023, 08:19 PM)bplus Wrote: I went a couple steps further in signing up for ChatGPT but quit when asked for phone number.
I was just like you! But after I took Steve's invitation to Discord from this forum.
I don't have my own phone because I despise touch screens of any sort. Bought a Roland portable music creation thing which required stylus for a very cheaply constructed touch screen which was difficult to read anything in it and needed to be calibrated regularly. That was the last time I wanted to use a touch screen for anything. Although I really would have wanted to see if QB64(PE) could revive the "PEN" commands...
RE: ChatGPT - mnrvovrfc - 02-23-2023
(02-23-2023, 11:06 PM)madscijr Wrote: What we should really be doing is asking it to cure diseases, improve everyone's mental health & fix social problems, figure out how to slow down aging, come up with ways to prevent war and famine, clean up pollution, and improve on the economic & government systems, so no one goes hungry, dies too soon, kills each other, robs each other, or sponges off the system too much.
Ask it to bring up a beautiful woman like that Daffy Duck cartoon where he had to bring a suitcase to some diplomat. For those who are single and looking of course...
RE: ChatGPT - madscijr - 02-24-2023
(02-23-2023, 11:53 PM)mnrvovrfc Wrote:(02-23-2023, 11:06 PM)madscijr Wrote: What we should really be doing is asking it to cure diseases, improve everyone's mental health & fix social problems, figure out how to slow down aging, come up with ways to prevent war and famine, clean up pollution, and improve on the economic & government systems, so no one goes hungry, dies too soon, kills each other, robs each other, or sponges off the system too much.
Ask it to bring up a beautiful woman like that Daffy Duck cartoon where he had to bring a suitcase to some diplomat. For those who are single and looking of course...
I'm sure they're working on it!
Meanwhile, take a break from your computer and go someplace where you can meet a nice girl! (or boy, since I don't know your gender preference, no judgments!)
Maybe some of the nice folks here can give you advice!
:-D
Cheers!
RE: ChatGPT - bplus - 02-24-2023
(02-23-2023, 08:56 PM)TerryRitchie Wrote:(02-23-2023, 08:19 PM)bplus Wrote: So easy to dismiss with an oversimplified excuse. Hey if your plate is full, good for you!
I went a couple steps further in signing up for ChatGPT but quit when asked for phone number.
Why do you suppose they would need that?
I see PLUS cost 20$ a month.
They didn't ask for my phone number? I signed up through OpenAI though.
Yeah, openai for me also, I guess you got to get in early before word spreads and puts a gleam in the entrepreneur's eye
RE: ChatGPT - DANILIN - 04-29-2023
Here's a possible dialogue between Lincoln and Alexander II:
Alexander II: Good day, Mr. Lincoln. It's an honor to meet you.
Lincoln: Good day, Tsar Alexander. The honor is mine.
Alexander II: I can relate to that. We just abolished serfdom in Russia a few years ago.
Lincoln: I heard about it, and I commend you for that. It's a big step towards equality.
Alexander II: Yes, but there is still much work to be done. We need to modernize our economy and society.
Lincoln: That's true. We also face many challenges in our country, such as the Civil War.
Alexander II: I hope that your country can overcome this conflict and become stronger.
Lincoln: Thank you, Tsar Alexander. We are trying our best, but it's not easy.
Alexander II: I understand. In times of crisis, we need to stay strong and united.
Lincoln: Yes, and we need to work together as nations to promote peace and prosperity.
Alexander II: I agree. Let's hope that our countries can continue to cooperate and build a better world.
Lincoln: Indeed. It was a pleasure to meet you, Tsar Alexander.
Alexander II: The pleasure is mine, Mr. Lincoln. Goodbye and good luck.
RE: ChatGPT - madscijr - 04-29-2023
(04-29-2023, 06:35 PM)DANILIN Wrote: Here's a possible dialogue between Lincoln and Alexander II:
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I wonder how we might talk to ChatGPT from QB64PE?
RE: ChatGPT - mnrvovrfc - 04-29-2023
(04-29-2023, 06:35 PM)DANILIN Wrote: Here's a possible dialogue between Lincoln and Alexander II:
Damn I hate talking about politics and religion in a forum like this but for one moment:
Wasn't this already done by JFK and Khrushchev?
(Then one was shot, and the other was accused of "hare-brained" schemes.)
Ahem! To answer the other post just above: will have to rely on the $UNSTABLE:HTTP stuff to access the site, only if the user didn't have to log into the "openai" site...
Once before it was just filling in blanks with questions, right? Then a way has to be figured out to retrieve the replies from "openai" site.
Alternatively you could join another forum which features "Tuxbot":
https://linux.org/forums/ask-tuxbot.205/
There could be a way to parse HTML or JSON or whatever to pick up the replies.
RE: ChatGPT - mnrvovrfc - 05-02-2023
In the forum about music technology I had belonged to, there's a program developer that should have been permanently banned because of many questionable actions he made toward the users, although away from that forum. He doesn't even reply for himself anymore, using ChatGPT for it. While willingly taking money from customers and claiming to provide support and updates. I think it's very disgusting. If I ran a forum like that I would ban without discussion whoever does such a thing.
RE: ChatGPT - Dimster - 05-03-2023
ChatGPT is based on a Generative AI model. If that is so, it carries the potential of knowing EVERYTHING human kind has discovered since our existence. While it is still short of General AI status it nevertheless has reached a very important milestone.
As I see it, ChatGPT, within the next couple of years, will invade fundamental pillars of society. One of the first ones you and I will likely be faced with is Education. Do we need to send our kids to school? With ChatGPT could they not get all the knowledge they need to be whatever they want to be. How much of our tax dollars go to supporting an education system that may not be as tailored to your childs learning strengths and interests to be an astronaut. Plus the accuracy of the information from ChatGPT is superior as is the up to the minute modern knowledge (whereas our schools curriculum tend to lag modern up to date knowledge break throughs). We could save a fortune in higher learning educational costs, especially low income families.
At the moment, school children using ChatGPT will be labelled "cheaters" by the school system plus the worry that the child is just handing in a repeat of what ChatGPT has reported and the child didn't "learn" and "apply" knowledge taught in the class room. That very well may be the case right now but, remove the teacher and the classroom, and actual learning could take place.
RE: ChatGPT - madscijr - 05-03-2023
(05-03-2023, 01:31 PM)Dimster Wrote: ChatGPT ... carries the potential of knowing EVERYTHING human kind has discovered since our existence.
But does it? What about all the documents, videos/pictures/recordings not digitized? What about all the things that happen / have happened in the world that people have not written down in digital form and put on the Internet?
Most critically, what if ChatGPT is "trained" with false or subjective information, or information specifically written or edited to further an agenda? What about information supplied to it by racists, or a political party or government or organized crime or hackers or simply ignorant people?
It would be very easy to lie to it, or feed it certain information, to influence its knowledge base. It's easy to "pollute" these things.
Consider the Chinese or Russian governments, which stridently and effectively censor the information that hundreds of millions of people have access to. Or even the USA or any country where the media is controlled by certain interests. Consider the influence hackers had on elections by posting to Facebook.
Even in the free world where access to information is not controlled, people are easily influenced. How would you prevent that being done to a dumb AI?
(05-03-2023, 01:31 PM)Dimster Wrote: One of the first ones you and I will likely be faced with is Education. Do we need to send our kids to school?
I don't know if you have kids of your own, but one of the most important parts of kids going to school (or any activity) is socialization. If you keep your children at home being spoonfed all their knowledge of the world by some computer program (which can be manipulated by hackers or other bad actors) will they really be getting a quality education and be adequately socialized?
And what about the quality of life? Up until now, kids go to school, make friends, get to know their teachers, participate in activities (including physical ones where they get exercise and learn to coordinate their bodies), and make memories in life. Are you saying that sitting at home all day talking to a computer chatbot can adequately replace that? I cringe to think of a world like that.
And if we have them wear VR goggles, so they can experience being with other people, there are some real concerns there:
First, anything computerized and on a network is open to manipulation. How do you know your kid is seeing what you think they're seeing?
Second, it's open to so many privacy issues. In VR, every single move you make can be tracked. If you participate in a virtual reality environment, not only can what you say, hear, type or do onscreen be tracked, your body movements can. Whatever your eyes look at, whatever body movements you make, they'll know. That might be acceptable to a totalitarian government like China or for tracking sex offenders, but do we really want that to be the norm for everyone?
That kind of information can be analyzed and used to manipulate someone - by a hacker, a predator, a government, or criminal. Do we really want to make people that vulnerable and subject them to that kind of invasive surveillance as the norm?
But mainly, this approach would effectively remove kids from reality, and limit them to a very controlled and limited field of experience, both inadequate and dangerous.
(05-03-2023, 01:31 PM)Dimster Wrote: With ChatGPT could they not get all the knowledge they need to be whatever they want to be.
We've already talked about how this "knowledge" can be suspect, but beyond that, as it is, we already have a ton of knowedge and information on line at our disposal, but people are still misinformed and ignorant.
Even the most critical thinker can be misled by bad information when it's too widespread -or deliberately manipulated. And the world is loaded with that, even before computers.
What about people who don't make the effort to fully research their information, or don't have the time? As it is, the information out there in the mainstream news every day is slanted to direct people's attention both to get viewers and readers for ad revenue, and to forward the agendas of whatever parent corporation ultimately owns that media source. And people either don't know to, don't care to, or have the time to, verify the information with due diligence.
What is going to protect people from that when it's multiplied by the power of these AI systems?
Anyway, those are some thoughts I've been having as ChatGPT has arrived and become popular. I do think these kind of tools have the potential to be of immense value to humankind (and life on Earth in general), but we need to tread lightly, and foresee the dangers before we fully jump in. And we probably should never FULLY jump in, and replace good old reality with these things anyway!