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RE: New logo - draft - Kernelpanic - 07-23-2022
@TempodiBasic - the start page is psychology! Not more but also not less.
When you come to a new page, the first impression shapes your feelings. And that's exactly what a page has to take into account if it wants to be at the top of the 1st place.
A program like QB64 will also work under the 128 & 256 bit architecture and it will work fine.
Think MS Office and Word. Why did MS hesitate for so long to release a 64-bit version of Word? Because it's useless! Even with Excel, it needs really big programs to show any benefit.
And back to the home page - it's like the first impression when you meet someone for the first time.
RE: New logo - draft - TempodiBasic - 07-24-2022
Yes, graphic is immediate perception...
Sorry for my first perception... our Phoenix seems more a falcon or an eagle than a Phoenix
here some web images about phoenix:
https://www.pinterest.it/pin/123637952253273699/
https://www.pinterest.it/pin/370069294392036655/
https://www.pinterest.it/pin/13581236378536425/
https://www.pinterest.it/pin/4362930880068180/
https://www.pinterest.it/pin/14144186321914412/
https://www.crushpixel.com/it/stock-vector/phoenix-vector-icon-illustration-3790970.html 'another perspective from side
https://it.vecteezy.com/vettori-gratis/fenice ' a set of phoenixes
I see a long and /or large tail that mimic spirals of fire.
The same do the wings that are with fire on them.
Well in the actual icon, it seems to me that the tail is a little short and thin (the two side parts both right both left appear like 2 claws) in the middle of 2 claws.
The mono color of Phoenix brings poorly the idea of flames and fire, if GIF lets use more colors it can be used 2-3 colors for showing flames
I like very much QB PE than QB64 PE just because it is clear the cut toward the last heartquake that could have been fatal to QB64 (think like when Microsoft put offout the windows number going from win95->win98->win Millennium ) and because 4 is better than 6.
Just my thoughts to be active in this fantastic community.
PS
the phoenix at left of the banner is the idea... sorry for raw picturing
and at bottom the final work with this new phoenix
![[Image: QB64-Phoenix-Edition-Banner.png]](https://i.ibb.co/WcsWqM1/QB64-Phoenix-Edition-Banner.png)
RE: New logo - draft - TempodiBasic - 10-23-2022
Lol I have forgotten this my post.
( TempodiBasic was here )
RE: New logo - draft - Ikerkaz - 10-23-2022
Sorry, I tried but I don't like the logo... I liked the old QB64 one, and IMHO is very much recognizable when you have little icons on screen, so I recompiled QB64PE using QB64 icon and this is what I am using
RE: New logo - draft - Fifi - 10-24-2022
(07-23-2022, 09:30 PM)TempodiBasic Wrote: I have loosen something in translations...
QB still is QB
before time was 32 and then it became 64, in the next future it will be 128 or 256...
PE was
Phoenix Edition because it had re-borned by its ashes
Professional Edition because it goes on from previous QB64 last available version
Plus Enterprise because it lets add module and libraries of expert storical QB64 coders shared on this forum
Permanent Evolution because it goes through the time
so my 2 cents are a question: Is more important defining how many byte it uses as basis or the spirit of being evolutionary?
In other words is more important the "64" of the name or the "PE" in the name?
....
only Team developers and hystorical member of the 2 previous forums (.net and .org) can have a large perspective to evaluate the differences and the importance of 64 and of PE in the name of language.
Waiting feedbacks
Good Coding
For old Windows revs (XP, Seven, Vista, and 10 32 bit), isn't QB64PE also a true 32 bit version?
So, isn't the 64 part confusing?
I guess the important part is "QB".
So, the name could also be for a 4 letters short name: "QBSE" for "QB Second Edition" (Steve Edition - LoL) or "QB64SE" (for a long name) or even "QBNE" for QB New Edition or QB Next Edition (that will preserve the path to futur 128, 256, etc).
Just my two cents .
Cheers.
Fifi
RE: New logo - draft - Fifi - 10-24-2022
(07-23-2022, 10:39 PM)Kernelpanic Wrote: @TempodiBasic - the start page is psychology! Not more but also not less.
When you come to a new page, the first impression shapes your feelings. And that's exactly what a page has to take into account if it wants to be at the top of the 1st place.
A program like QB64 will also work under the 128 & 256 bit architecture and it will work fine.
Think MS Office and Word. Why did MS hesitate for so long to release a 64-bit version of Word? Because it's useless! Even with Excel, it needs really big programs to show any benefit.
And back to the home page - it's like the first impression when you meet someone for the first time.
A 64 bit executable "would" run on 128, 256, etc. OS only if such an OS would support such 64 arcitecture.
And if someone is starting such a new OS, he/she would be completely dumb to support X86-64.
Ask Apple the cost of supporting macOS 32 bit on their new ARM platform?
Now, about why MS hesitate so long to release 64 bit version f Office?
Simply because they're very poor coders (I'll will not release here what most of the IBM OS/2 devs used to say (in the Labs of Bocca Raton, Raleigh and Austin) about their "friends of MS".
Even the DOS team had to rewite almost 100% of the MS code for each new release.
Even the Borland's dev folks had a very poor opinon about their MS counterparts.
Ask to the MS apps devs what they think about multi threading
Most of them have no clue. Been there, done that both with Big Blue and Borland from 1981 up to 1998.
Cheers.
Fifi
RE: New logo - draft - mnrvovrfc - 10-24-2022
(10-24-2022, 01:25 AM)Fifi Wrote:You guys forget that Galleon named it "QB64", the credit belongs to the man who created the product at first. One of the chief goals, yes was to port it to 64-bit, which was done. Cannot be "QBPE", remember that Steve was forced to choose an online domain other than the "official version repo" which is where the "PE" suffix really comes from. Must be "QB64PE" although it's "too long" for some people. It avoids confusion because anybody could fork the source code. Right now there are like eleven different "versions" of QB64 on Github, some of the packages simply uploaded as they were acquired just before the fiasco this spring in northern hemisphere.(07-23-2022, 09:30 PM)TempodiBasic Wrote: I have loosen something in translations...
QB still is QB
before time was 32 and then it became 64, in the next future it will be 128 or 256...
:
For old Windows revs (XP, Seven, Vista, and 10 32 bit), isn't QB64PE also a true 32 bit version?
So, isn't the 64 part confusing?
:
The "45" in "QB45" (QuickBASIC v4.5) and "71" motivated by BASIC PDS v7.1 would have caused even more confusion, if there were no such thing as QB64 and somebody tried to write a Q(uick)BASIC clone closer than Freebasic ever was.
I almost forgot to indicate, QB64PE doesn't work anymore on WindowsXP, even 32-bit. The minimum system requirement is Windows v6, a part of what "strongman Arnie" said in a movie...
https://qb64phoenix.com/qb64wiki/index.php/QB64_FAQ#Q:_Does_it_work_on_Windows_98_or_any_OS_older_than_Windows_2000%3f
RE: New logo - draft - mnrvovrfc - 10-24-2022
(10-24-2022, 01:54 AM)Fifi Wrote: Even the Borland's dev folks had a very poor opinon about their MS counterparts.M$ were so incredible they rushed Quick Pascal to market and the best they could do was make it act like Turbo Pascal as much as possible. Turbo Pascal v3 was that fantastic a 16-bit program. :tu:
Oh anyway that's what I read in Wikipedia, I wouldn't know any better. I had QuickC which I liked but used it on a Tandy computer with very slow 40MB hard disk and pretend-80286 processor. I liked it even with the long-ass non-standard keywords to do kewl kolors in the konsole which otherwise I was able to do quite easily on QuickBASIC.
(10-23-2022, 09:11 PM)Ikerkaz Wrote: Sorry, I tried but I don't like the logo... I liked the old QB64 one, and IMHO is very much recognizable when you have little icons on screen, so I recompiled QB64PE using QB64 icon and this is what I am usingLOL I'm just like you but with WinRAR. The WinRAR v6 app icon hurts my eyes too much, would hurt my teeth too if they were "Now and Later" candies. It contradicts what I just said above...