QB64.com?

[SMcNeill]

Interesting, I just caught myself up on all of this and also learned about Steve's new 0.5 thing.  Seems Steve has absolutely zero respect or consideration to the past or what anyone thinks.  Started with the absurd forum organization, then the weird colours and banner, and now this bizarre versioning thing.  

We have a dozen different colors and such that folks can choose from; you just have to click on the "Theme" down in the bottom right to find one that suits you.  As for the version number, it's been addressed here: Who and What is The Phoenix Edition (qb64phoenix.com)

I kind of wondered why didn't Fellippe consider Steve as the heir?  I guess RC came with promises of "brand legitimacy" -- how funny is it that we're now all stuck in Steve's whimsical paradise?

Why didn't Fell consider Luke to be the heir?  Or StxATxIC?  Or you?  I dunno.  You'd have to ask him about why he chose to do what he did.  From the outcome of things, I think he couldn't have chosen any worse.  

And, you're not stuck anywhere.  It's a free world and a free internet out there.  The project has always been open source, and we've always had multiple forums and such devoted to it.  Perhaps you can find qb64.com a little more to your liking?  Or qb64.dev?  Or wherever Walter is putting his version of QB64-X?  If none of those float your boat, you can always make your own home on the net and invite people to join you there.  Nobody is stuck anywhere they don't want to be. 

Now there's a weird power struggle over who's the 'official'.  Can't say that I ever liked "the QB64 team" branding under Fellippe and Steve's brand is a hell of a lot funnier and more amusing.  Waltersmind would be better, of course.

No struggle as far as I can tell.  Other people are branching off and going their own ways.  QB64.com is taking the moniker "Official QB64".  We're "Phoenix Edition".  Walt is working on a "QB64-X".  Heck, even Keybone is working on a "QB64-lite", which might interest you.

I'm glad we can amuse you though.  Life is entirely too short not to live it happily and amused.  

  It's also been annoying how you have to constantly update QB64 with the addition of useless new keywords and junk to keep up with the latest forum posts.  All I know is that for the time being I'm going to be targeting FreeBASIC as the primary leisurely programming platform then we'll see what edition of QB64 I'll have to translate to in order to engage with the likes of bplus

This tends to happen as any language continues to grow and adjust.  The only languages which don't have new keywords, or new methods, are dead languages.  A lot of the things you call "junk", is what most people would call "progress".

A few versions ago, you had to declare every variable separately.  Now you can do something as simple as:  DIM AS INTEGER x, y, z, a, b, c

You used to have to try and remember all the rgb values for the colors you wanted, or have a handy reference nearby for them.  Now you just set $COLOR:32 and you can code with color names.  COLOR Silver, RoyalBlue, for example.

The language isn't dead yet, and things will continue to evolve even more over time.  We're still moving on, doing our own thing, slowly and surely.  We're not dead yet -- not matter what it seems some people would prefer.   

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it's an opensource project and it should stay that way. as long as this forum goes that way, I'm fine with it. the power struggles are pointless.

We follow a 100% MIT license and are completely free and open source with what we're doing here.  I don't know what the other guys are going to choose to do with whatever stuff they produce, but you can rest assured we're not going to change on that front at all.