So who's the new old guy?

[Pete]

Wow great to have both you young'ns on board, nice experience both!

I started at college with punch cards for Cobol and Fortran?, then some sort of Unix Basic over what I call dummy terminals.
12 years later my own PC with DOS 3.1 if I recall on 8088, starting with GW-BASIC, then 496 DOS 5 and 6? and QB45.5, VB 2.0, VB DOS (the best then!) on Windows 3.1 (still a little too slow for graphics and Windows) mid 90's.

Punch cards were aptly named. Of course kick cards, bludgeon cards, axe cards, and rip cards were probably close runners up. What a royal PITA!  I had a chem lab instructor who required we did all of our test answers on those damn things. Mess up one hole, in 40 cards, and your grade would drop. No extra cards, stingy SOB. We had to wait in line for well over an hour to use the few machines in the lab. I ditched that idiot "professor" and got a normal human in his place. She was great. I ended up tutoring chem to other pre-med students because of her ability to do her job, teach. Good teachers make a real difference, but as of late, we have a nation full of indoctrinating morons who make even my numbskull punch card professor look like a saint. Anyway, rant aside, I always found it ironic my initial experience with "computers" was so negative. Actually, it was a lot like typing class back in the 70's. I declined to take typing in high school, because I was sure secretarial work was not in my future. Now I type very often, fairly fast, but in a very unconventional manner. Sorry, have to go. The boss needs coffee and my pantyhose are riding up something fierce.

Pete