If you run HelloRawInput (see attached "HelloRawInput_minimal.zip", run the batch file to compile with QB64), it counts the system devices. When you plug in a 2nd USB mouse, the count increases.
If you run ShowMultipleMiceValues (see attached "ShowMultipleMiceValues.zip", run the batch file to compile with QB64), with 2 USB mice plugged in, and move one, it displays the device ID and some values. Then if you move the second mouse, the device ID changes. Running it from Windows, where 2 USB mice plugged in both control the same mouse pointer, there is only one set of x/y coordinates. So this example doesn't show separate x/y coordinates for each mouse.
However JStookey provides a raw mouse API to read separate coordinates from multiple mice (see attached "raw_mouse_test_(attempt_1).zip", and "raw_mouse_test_(attempt_2).zip" where I tried to clean up code putting compound IF statements inside braces, etc.), but either way compiling gives errors (see "errors1.txt").
I am not C-savvy enough to really understand the erorrs but I did see some comments on the page about needing to convert libraries and massage header files to make it work for MinGW. They talk about using a program called, "reimp" (part of MinGW tools) on the MS Platform SDK "user32.lib" file. I don't think I have "reimp" and don't know what this MS Platform SDK is, so I haven't gotten far enough along to try and do the things they are talking about to make it work, and was hoping someone more familiar with that stuff might be able to help figure it out or guide me through some/any of it?
The hope is that this version (or one slightly modified) could read separate coordinates for each mouse, and QB64 could talk to it and get back separate input for each mouse plugged in. Think of the multiplayer Pong and puzzle games you could make! LoL
Then there is an example program that lists all the raw input devices on the computer (see attached "ListRawInputDevices_vc++.zip") which similarly doesn't compile. That one is in C++, which I have even less of a clue about making work, but GCC should be able to handle C++ so maybe it can work?
Anyway, at least 2 of these examples compile right out of the box, and if anyone has got any interest & spare time to help get the raw mouse API example to work, we could have a way to read 2 or more mice as separate input devices from QB64 (how to get QB64 to talk to a C program is a separate problem, I figure we can tackle another day!)
Meanwhile I will try to mess around with converting libraries / header files as time allows, to see if I can figure it out, but I am sure someone who actually knows what they're doing with the C stuff would have a better chance at succeeding...
If you run HelloRawInput (see attached "HelloRawInput_minimal.zip", run the batch file to compile with QB64), it counts the system devices. When you plug in a 2nd USB mouse, the count increases.
If you run ShowMultipleMiceValues (see attached "ShowMultipleMiceValues.zip", run the batch file to compile with QB64), with 2 USB mice plugged in, and move one, it displays the device ID and some values. Then if you move the second mouse, the device ID changes. Running it from Windows, where 2 USB mice plugged in both control the same mouse pointer, there is only one set of x/y coordinates. So this example doesn't show separate x/y coordinates for each mouse.
However JStookey provides a raw mouse API to read separate coordinates from multiple mice (see attached "raw_mouse_test_(attempt_1).zip", and "raw_mouse_test_(attempt_2).zip" where I tried to clean up code putting compound IF statements inside braces, etc.), but either way compiling gives errors (see "errors1.txt").
I am not C-savvy enough to really understand the erorrs but I did see some comments on the page about needing to convert libraries and massage header files to make it work for MinGW. They talk about using a program called, "reimp" (part of MinGW tools) on the MS Platform SDK "user32.lib" file. I don't think I have "reimp" and don't know what this MS Platform SDK is, so I haven't gotten far enough along to try and do the things they are talking about to make it work, and was hoping someone more familiar with that stuff might be able to help figure it out or guide me through some/any of it?
The hope is that this version (or one slightly modified) could read separate coordinates for each mouse, and QB64 could talk to it and get back separate input for each mouse plugged in. Think of the multiplayer Pong and puzzle games you could make! LoL
Then there is an example program that lists all the raw input devices on the computer (see attached "ListRawInputDevices_vc++.zip") which similarly doesn't compile. That one is in C++, which I have even less of a clue about making work, but GCC should be able to handle C++ so maybe it can work?
Anyway, at least 2 of these examples compile right out of the box, and if anyone has got any interest & spare time to help get the raw mouse API example to work, we could have a way to read 2 or more mice as separate input devices from QB64 (how to get QB64 to talk to a C program is a separate problem, I figure we can tackle another day!)
Meanwhile I will try to mess around with converting libraries / header files as time allows, to see if I can figure it out, but I am sure someone who actually knows what they're doing with the C stuff would have a better chance at succeeding...
Looking at the errors, raw_mouse.c has no WinMain function, so it needs to be compiled to an object (".o") file, then linked to a Windows GUI program which uses it. In this case, that Windows GUI program is raw_mouse_test.c.
I've modified the batch file to get everything compiled. The compiler issues a few warnings, but finishes compilation. raw_mouse_test.exe seems to work, although I only have one mouse to test it on. ZIP file attached to post.
In regards to ListRawInputDevices_vc++.zip, that is a Visual C++ project, which I am not equipped to handle. I was able to compile it with MinGW after one small change, but it immediately exits without displaying anything. No luck for me.
09-06-2022, 09:31 PM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 04:41 AM by madscijr.)
(09-06-2022, 09:07 PM)JRace Wrote:
(09-06-2022, 08:08 PM)madscijr Wrote: Thanks to the help from the kind folks here with compiling C with QB64's built in compiler, I made some progress compiling this Raw Input API multi-mouse code, and got 2 of the examples "HelloRawInput.c" and "ShowMultipleMiceValues.c" to compile and run.
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and was hoping someone more familiar with that stuff might be able to help figure it out or guide me through some/any of it?
Looking at the errors, raw_mouse.c has no WinMain function, so it needs to be compiled to an object (".o") file, then linked to a Windows GUI program which uses it. In this case, that Windows GUI program is raw_mouse_test.c.
I've modified the batch file to get everything compiled. The compiler issues a few warnings, but finishes compilation. raw_mouse_test.exe seems to work, although I only have one mouse to test it on. ZIP file attached to post.
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Thanks so much for taking the time to look at this and get it compiling.
I'm away from the PC, but can't wait to give raw_mouse_test a spin with both mice plugged in!
UPDATE: Well, it runs! But due to Windows having one mouse pointer, it seems to be writing the values for whichever was the last mouse moved, for all the mice. At least it can differentiate between them - I'm going to play with the code and try to get it to track the values for each mouse individually, and only update mouse n's value when that mouse is the one being moved. Wish me good luck :-)
Once I wanted to buy a mouse with six buttons but two of the "buttons" was nudging the mousewheel which was a no-go for me. WTF was I going to do with four extra buttons?! Ah well at least the square one in front of the mousewheel would have been enough for me instead of pressing that darned wheel down.
Once I wanted to buy a mouse with six buttons but two of the "buttons" was nudging the mousewheel which was a no-go for me. WTF was I going to do with four extra buttons?! Ah well at least the square one in front of the mousewheel would have been enough for me instead of pressing that darned wheel down.
Yeah, I did experiments with DEVICEINPUT, it no workie. I can dig up the various tests & post here if it helps, but I'm pretty sure that for reading separate input from multiple mice in Windows, the RawInputAPI is the way. Unless there's a way to replicate the C code that calls the API in QB64, I need to take a crash course in C basics like reading command line parameters (maybe an input value for which mouse to return coords for) and how to call or shell out to the C mouse exe from QB64 and how the mouse exe would return the coordinates to QB64.
09-07-2022, 05:38 AM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 05:45 AM by JRace.)
Hmmmm. Dav's QBasic Site ( http://www.qbasicnews.com/dav/qb64.php ) has some tutorials/samples of making API calls in QB64. You might look at some of those.
I'll have to take a look at this again sometime to see if I can be of assistance. I had some trouble with the API last time but I'm more experienced now. That's no guarantee that I'd be able to get anywhere with it, however. I think the main issue last time was struct sizes, maybe? I've got a foolproof way of getting those set up now.
Ask me about Windows API and maybe some Linux stuff
09-07-2022, 03:18 PM (This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 08:11 PM by SpriggsySpriggs.)
Adding this reply as a way to keep track of this source as I work on converting what you've done so far. I'll have to pull up my Win32 Video Player code to bring in all my junk for the callbacks and window functions but the InitRawInput function works as expected
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Option Explicit
$NoPrefix
$Console:Only
Type RAWINPUTDEVICE
As Unsigned Integer usUsagePage, usUsage
As Unsigned Long dwFlags
As Offset hwndTarget
End Type
Type RAWINPUTDEVICELIST
As Offset hDevice
As Unsigned Long dwType
$If 64BIT Then
As String * 4 alignment
$End If
End Type
Declare CustomType Library
Function GetRawInputDeviceList~& (ByVal pRawInputDeviceList As Offset, Byval puiNumDevices As Offset, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Sub GetRawInputDeviceList (ByVal pRawInputDeviceList As Offset, Byval puiNumDevices As Offset, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Function RegisterRawInputDevices& (ByVal pRawInputDevices As Offset, Byval uiNumDevices As Unsigned Long, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Function GetLastError~& ()
End Declare
InitRawInput
Sub InitRawInput ()
Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICE Rid(0 To 49)
Dim As Unsigned Long nDevices
Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICELIST RawInputDeviceList
If GetRawInputDeviceList(0, Offset(nDevices), Len(RawInputDeviceList)) <> 0 Then
Exit Sub
End If
Dim As MEM pRawInputDeviceList: pRawInputDeviceList = MemNew(Len(RawInputDeviceList) * nDevices)
GetRawInputDeviceList pRawInputDeviceList.OFFSET, Offset(nDevices), Len(RawInputDeviceList)
'This small block of commented code proves that we've got the device list
'Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICELIST rawdevs(0 To nDevices - 1)
'MemGet pRawInputDeviceList, pRawInputDeviceList.OFFSET, rawdevs()
'Dim As Unsigned Long x
'For x = 0 To UBound(rawdevs)
' Print rawdevs(x).hDevice, rawdevs(x).dwType
'Next
Also, here is some more crazy stuff, a c++ project for reading multiple input devices that is supposedly cross-platform?
I'm only including this for reference, I have zero chance of getting this to work, but if anyone does, do tell! https://github.com/NoobsArePeople2/manymouse
(09-07-2022, 03:18 PM)Spriggsy Wrote: Adding this reply as a way to keep track of this source as I work on converting what you've done so far. I'll have to pull up my Win32 Video Player code to bring in all my junk for the callbacks and window functions but the InitRawInput function works as expected
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Option Explicit
$NoPrefix
$Console:Only
Type RAWINPUTDEVICE
As Unsigned Integer usUsagePage, usUsage
As Unsigned Long dwFlags
As Offset hwndTarget
End Type
Type RAWINPUTDEVICELIST
As Offset hDevice
As Unsigned Long dwType
$If 64BIT Then
As String * 4 alignment
$End If
End Type
Declare CustomType Library
Function GetRawInputDeviceList~& (ByVal pRawInputDeviceList As Offset, Byval puiNumDevices As Offset, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Sub GetRawInputDeviceList (ByVal pRawInputDeviceList As Offset, Byval puiNumDevices As Offset, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Function RegisterRawInputDevices& (ByVal pRawInputDevices As Offset, Byval uiNumDevices As Unsigned Long, Byval cbSize As Unsigned Long)
Function GetLastError~& ()
End Declare
InitRawInput
Sub InitRawInput ()
Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICE Rid(0 To 49)
Dim As Unsigned Long nDevices
Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICELIST RawInputDeviceList
If GetRawInputDeviceList(0, Offset(nDevices), Len(RawInputDeviceList)) <> 0 Then
Exit Sub
End If
Dim As MEM pRawInputDeviceList: pRawInputDeviceList = MemNew(Len(RawInputDeviceList) * nDevices)
GetRawInputDeviceList pRawInputDeviceList.OFFSET, Offset(nDevices), Len(RawInputDeviceList)
'This small block of commented code proves that we've got the device list
'Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICELIST rawdevs(0 To nDevices - 1)
'MemGet pRawInputDeviceList, pRawInputDeviceList.OFFSET, rawdevs()
'Dim As Unsigned Long x
'For x = 0 To UBound(rawdevs)
' Print rawdevs(x).hDevice, rawdevs(x).dwType
'Next
Print "Number of raw input devices:" + Str$(nDevices)
If RegisterRawInputDevices(Offset(Rid()), 1, Len(Rid(0))) = 0 Then
Print "RawInput init failed:"
End If
End Sub
We talked about this a while back, and I found this code on my PC, named "manymouse.SpriggsySpriggs.20210331_123656.bas".
I don't think I ever got it working, but I see some RAWINPUT and RAWMOUSE declarations in there, that might be used for this...
Any recollection of any of this?
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Option _Explicit
$Console:Only
Declare CustomType Library
Function LoadLibrary%& (lpLibFileName As String)
Function GetProcAddress%& (ByVal hModule As _Offset, lpProcName As String)
Sub FreeLibrary (ByVal hLibModule As _Offset)
Sub InitializeCriticalSection (ByVal lpCriticalSection As _Offset)
Sub EnterCriticalSection (ByVal lpCriticalSection As _Offset)
Sub LeaveCriticalSection (ByVal lpCriticalSection As _Offset)
Function GetRawInputData~& (ByVal hRawInput As _Offset, Byval uiCommand As _Unsigned Long, Byval pData As _Offset, Byval pcbSize As _Offset, Byval cbSize As _Unsigned Long)
Function DefWindowProc%& Alias "DefWindowProcA" (ByVal hWnd As _Offset, Byval Msg As _Unsigned Long, Byval wParam As _Unsigned _Offset, Byval lParam As _Offset)
Function GetModuleHandle%& Alias "GetModuleHandleA" (ByVal lpModuleName As _Offset)
Function RegisterClass% Alias "RegisterClassExA" (ByVal unnamedParam1 As _Offset)
Function CreateWindow%& Alias "CreateWindowExA" (ByVal dwExStyle As Long, Byval lpClassName As _Offset, Byval lpWindowName As _Offset, Byval dwStyle As Long, Byval X As Long, Byval Y As Long, Byval nWidth As Long, Byval nHeight As Long, Byval hWndParent As _Offset, Byval hMenu As _Offset, Byval hInstance As _Offset, Byval lpParam As _Offset)
End Declare
Declare Dynamic Library "Kernel32"
Sub CopyMemory Alias "RtlCopyMemory" (ByVal Destination As _Offset, Byval Source As _Offset, Byval Length As _Offset)
End Declare
Type RTL_CRITICAL_SECTION_DEBUG
As Integer Type, CreatorBackTraceIndex
As _Offset CriticalSection
As LIST_ENTRY ProcessLocksList
As _Unsigned Long EntryCount, ContentionCount, Flags
As Integer CreatorBackTraceIndexHigh, SpareUSHORT
End Type
Type CRITICAL_SECTION
As _Offset DebugInfo
As Long LockCount, RecursionCount
As _Offset OwningThread, LockSemaphore
As _Unsigned Long SpinCount
End Type
Type ManyMouseEvent
As Long type
As _Unsigned Long device, item
As Long value, minval, maxval
End Type
Type MouseStruct
As _Offset handle
As String * 256 name
End Type
Type RAWINPUTHEADER
As Long dwType, dwSize
As _Offset hDevice
As _Unsigned _Offset wParam
End Type
Type RAWMOUSE
As _Unsigned Integer usFlags, usButtonFlags, usButtonData
As _Unsigned Long ulRawButtons
As Long lLastX, lLastY
As _Unsigned Long ulExtraInformation
End Type
Type RAWINPUT
As RAWINPUTHEADER header
As RAWMOUSE mouse
End Type
Type WNDCLASSEX
As _Unsigned Long cbSize, style
As _Offset lpfnWndProc
As Long cbClsExtra, cbWndExtra
As _Offset hInstance, hIcon, hCursor, hbrBackground, lpszMenuName, lpszClassName, hIconSm
End Type
Type RAWINPUTDEVICE
As _Unsigned Integer usUsagePage, usUsage
As Long dwFlags
As _Offset hwndTarget
End Type
Dim Shared As ManyMouseEvent input_events(MAX_EVENTS)
Dim Shared As Long input_events_read
Dim Shared As Long input_events_write
Dim Shared As Long available_mice
Dim Shared As Long did_api_lookup
Dim Shared As _Offset raw_hwnd
Dim Shared As String class_name: class_name = "ManyMouseRawInputCatcher"
Dim Shared As String win_name: win_name = "ManyMouseRawInputMsgWindow"
Dim Shared As Integer class_atom
Dim Shared As CRITICAL_SECTION mutex
Dim Shared As _Offset hWnd
Dim Shared As _Unsigned Long Msg
Dim Shared As _Unsigned _Offset wParam
Dim Shared As _Offset lParam
Dim Shared As MouseStruct mice(MAX_MICE)
Print find_api_symbols
Sleep
Function symlookup%& (dll As _Offset, sym As String) Static
Dim As _Offset addr
addr = GetProcAddress(dll, sym)
If addr = 0 Then
Call FreeLibrary(dll)
symlookup = 0
Exit Function
End If
symlookup = addr
Exit Function
End Function
Function find_api_symbols& () Static
FunctionList:
Data "GetRawInputDeviceInfoA","RegisterRawInputDevices","GetRawInputDeviceList","DefRawInputProc","GetRawInputBuffer","GetRawInputData","CreateWindowExA"
Data "RegisterClassExA","UnregisterClassA","DefWindowProcA","PeekMessageA","TranslateMessage","DispatchMessageA","DestroyWindow","GetModuleHandleA"
Data "GetLastError","InitializeCriticalSection","EnterCriticalSection","LeaveCriticalSection","DeleteCriticalSection","SetupDiGetClassDevsA","SetupDiEnumDeviceInfo"
Data "SetupDiGetDeviceInstantIdA","SetupDiGetDeviceRegistryPropertyA","SetupDiDestroyDeviceInfoList"
dllList:
Data "user32.dll","kernel32.dll","setupapi.dll"
Dim As _Offset dll
If did_api_lookup Then
find_api_symbols = 1
Exit Function
End If
Dim As String dllList(1 To 3), functionList(1 To 25)
Dim As Integer x, y
Restore dllList
For x = 1 To 3
Read dllList(x)
Next
Restore FunctionList
For x = 1 To 25
Read functionList(x)
Next
x = 1
y = 1
Do
If y = 15 Then x = 2
If y = 21 Then x = 3
dll = LoadLibrary(dllList(x))
If symlookup(dll, functionList(y)) <> 0 Then
If dll = 0 Then
find_api_symbols = 0
Exit Function
End If
End If
'Print dllList(x), functionList(y), dll
y = y + 1
Loop Until y = 25
did_api_lookup = 1
find_api_symbols = 1
End Function
Sub queue_event (event As ManyMouseEvent) Static
Call CopyMemory(_Offset(input_events(input_events_write)), _Offset(event), Len(event))
input_events_write = (input_events_write + 1) Mod MAX_EVENTS
If input_events_write = input_events_read Then
input_events_read = (input_events_read + 1) Mod MAX_EVENTS
End If
End Sub
Sub queue_from_rawinput (raw As RAWINPUT) Static
Dim As Long i
Dim As RAWINPUTHEADER header: header = raw.header
Dim As RAWMOUSE mouse: mouse = raw.mouse
Dim As ManyMouseEvent event
If raw.header.dwType <> RIM_TYPEMOUSE Then
Exit Sub
End If
For i = 0 To available_mice
If mice(i).handle = header.hDevice Then Exit For
Next
If i = available_mice Then Exit Sub
event.device = i
Call EnterCriticalSection(_Offset(mutex))
If mouse.usFlags And MOUSE_MOVE_ABSOLUTE Then
event.type = MANYMOUSE_EVENT_ABSMOTION
event.item = 0
event.value = mouse.lLastX
Call queue_event(event)
Else
event.type = MANYMOUSE_EVENT_RELMOTION
If mouse.lLastX <> 0 Then
event.item = 0
event.value = mouse.lLastX
Call queue_event(event)
End If
If mouse.lLastY <> 0 Then
event.item = 1
event.value = mouse.lLastY
Call queue_event(event)
End If
End If
event.type = MANYMOUSE_EVENT_BUTTON
RI_MOUSE_BUTTON:
Data &H0001,&H0002,&H0004,&H0008,&H0010,&H0020,&H0040,&H0080,&H0100,&H0200
Dim As Integer x
Dim As Long MOUSE_BUTTON
Restore RI_MOUSE_BUTTON
For x = 1 To 5
Read MOUSE_BUTTON
If mouse.usButtonFlags And MOUSE_BUTTON Then
event.item = MOUSE_BUTTON - 1
event.value = 1
Call queue_event(event)
End If
Read MOUSE_BUTTON
If mouse.usButtonFlags And MOUSE_BUTTON Then
event.item = MOUSE_BUTTON - 1
event.value = 0
Call queue_event(event)
End If
Next
If mouse.usButtonFlags And RI_MOUSE_WHEEL Then
If mouse.usButtonData <> 0 Then
event.type = MANYMOUSE_EVENT_SCROLL
event.item = 0
If mouse.usButtonData > 0 Then event.value = 1 Else event.value = -1
Call queue_event(event)
End If
End If
Call LeaveCriticalSection(_Offset(mutex))
End Sub
Sub wminput_handler (wParam As _Unsigned _Offset, lParam As _Offset) Static
Dim As _Unsigned Long dwSize, getrawinput
Dim As RAWINPUT lpb
Dim As RAWINPUTHEADER rawinputheader
getrawinput = GetRawInputData(lParam, RID_INPUT, 0, _Offset(dwSize), Len(rawinputheader))
If dwSize < Len(rawinputheader) Then Exit Sub
If GetRawInputData(lParam, RID_INPUT, _Offset(lpb), _Offset(dwSize), Len(rawinputheader)) <> dwSize Then Exit Sub
Call queue_from_rawinput(lpb)
End Sub
Function RawWndProc%& Static
If Msg = WM_INPUT Then
Call wminput_handler(wParam, lParam)
ElseIf Msg = WM_DESTROY Then
RawWndProc = 0
Exit Function
End If
RawWndProc = DefWindowProc(hWnd, Msg, wParam, lParam)
End Function
Function init_event_queue& () Static
Dim As _Offset hInstance: hInstance = GetModuleHandle(0)
Dim As WNDCLASSEX wce
Dim As RAWINPUTDEVICE rid
input_events_read = 0: input_events_write = 0
wce.cbSize = Len(wce)
wce.lpfnWndProc = RawWndProc
wce.lpszClassName = _Offset(class_name)
wce.hInstance = hInstance
class_atom = RegisterClass(_Offset(wce))
If class_atom = 0 Then Exit Function
raw_hwnd = CreateWindow(0, _Offset(class_name), _Offset(win_name), WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOW, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, CW_USEDEFAULT, HWND_MESSAGE, 0, hInstance, 0)
If raw_hwnd = 0 Then
init_event_queue = 0
Exit Function
End If
Call InitializeCriticalSection(_Offset(mutex))
'Got more junk to write here. Good grief. Left off on line 374 of windows_wminput.c
End Function
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